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3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. at boeing, one thing never changes. our passion to make it real. ♪ hello and welcome. today we've got breaking news about the condition of attorney general eric holder who is in the hospital right now. explainer on the new documents release in the chris christie investigation. and i'm excited to have the lawyer responsible for overturning the defense of marriage act speaking out for the first time on news outs of texas. plus, an exclusive with the controversial milely cyrus, does
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the pop star exploit little people? first our headlines. all of this stuff will come out over the appropriate period of time. >> eight out of ten democrats wants hillary clinton to run for president in 2016. >> i'm not going to give into the hysteria of questions. >> the same poll shows 10 out of 10 democrats to run against her. >> with a stroke of the pen, jan brewer stopped short. >> it is properly worded and result in unintended and negative consequences. >> i didn't come here to make friends. >> the tea party movement is an intellectual movement. >> i came to save this republic -- >> overknight armed men seized control of two government buildings as putin announces he's sending troops near ukraine's border. >> there's talk that ukraine could be split into two separate countries which explains the new
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name. two cranes. >> we begin today breaking news where eric holder is now hospitalized. he was taken to the hospital after experiencing shortness of breath. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is joining me from washington. i'm a big fan of your work. what have you learned. >> justice department officials are being relatively upbeat about this. we heard within the lasts hour he was joking with the paramedics they say in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. he said i'm a guy who walks up five flights of stairs every day to get to my office and going to play basketball this weekend. so i guess you could say the body language around this is upbeat. here are the facts, at 9:00 this morning the attorney general went to his regular meeting at the fbi then walked back across
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the pennsylvania avenue to his office in the justice department for a regular 9:30 a.m. meeting with his senior staff in the big conference room adjacent to his office. an official who was in that meeting says that at one point the attorney general said i'm not feeling well, i'm going to excuse myself. you all go on with the meeting and stood up and went into his office, talked to his security detail and this official says the members of his detail persuaded him he should get to the hospital he was taken there by ambulance and admitted for some tests. the justice department said in a statement that he was resting comfortably, in fact, we're told the attorney general himself reviewed the statement before the justice department put it out. so he's obviously alert and talking to his doctor and talking to members of his staff. they say he's doing well. we're all waiting to finds out what the results of the tests indicate about what happened. >> and we actually now have breaking news that president
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obama has wished the attorney janetgeneral a speedy recovery. i would hope he would wish a speedy recovery. thanks for the update. >> you bet. >> we also have news out of new jersey where fresh documents were released moments ago as part of the investigation into governor chris christie. those documents include newly unredacted e-mails and correspondence at the heart of the scandal. shedding more light on the relationship between david wi wildstein and former bridget kelly, who famously joked about having traffic problems on the bridge. take a listen. >> i mean, i didn't ask the questions because i didn't think they needed to be asked. >> what about when the situation with bridget kelly though, you said you were angry when you
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read about her e-mails to wildstein and you personally fired her -- >> no, i did not say that. >> that was not -- >> i ordered it. >> i'm sorry, you personally ordered her fired. >> yeah. >> did you have no face to face with her on that day? >> no, there was no opportunity for you to pull her aside and say what was going on? >> eric, by that time, it was evident from the e-mails what was going on. and it was not appropriate for me to have those conversations. >> not appropriate for him to have those conversations. joining me now is steve kornacki who has been reporting extensively on this story and michael powell who covers christie for "the new york times." steve, i'll start with you, what if anything do we have that's new out of the documents? >> i don't think there's a lot that's new. i think there's what's getting the most attention, this exchange between wildstein and bridget kelly where they are jokingly talking about traffic for this rabbi, this politically active rabbi who rubs them both
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the wrong way. >> did we determine what the specifics of the grij against the rabbi? >> no, we didn't. he sort of typifies a certain of political character, i think who is probably -- who drove david wildstein crazy, the person who is always sort of striving to show you how important and relevant they are. look at me in this picture with famous person x -- >> just annoying. >> there were a number of characters like that who i know working and we would joke about. i'm reading that exchange and saying, i think i've had few exchanges with him like this before. i'm guessing that's what that was. >> michael, do you think this is a first of a trickle on more unredakss or is this it? >> no, i don't think this is it. i think we're going to start to see is some of these unredacted documents and they come out either through this or the federal -- there's a federal
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investigation going on at the same time. that potentially strikes me in all respects as more serious because their people will have to swear to things and talk to the fbi or they are talking to the fbi. and the kind of mistakes and water gets a lot warmer in those investigations. >> and steve, in the last two town halls christie held, the word bridge did not appear except maybe in the context of sandy recovery. he's been avoiding the issue as you said when you were last on the program. no smoking gun right now. do you think new jersey voters care at this point? >> there's clear evidence when you look at where his approval rating was helding into the direction election and where it stands now. this has been a dramatic fall for chris christie. he's not fallen to the point where he's been completely written off by the state but he's fallen to a point where he's more perilous political situation in new jersey and obviously nationally when he's been since he's been governor. and he can keep doing town hall meetings. if nobody wants to bring it up
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or risk getting into some kind of big public fight with him? >> did he want to bring it up? >> you wonder, first of all, the town hall was republican part of the state and second of all, it's a standard thing, he's been doing this since he became governor but begins by saying, if you're going to come back at me, i'm going to come back at you. in the context of everything going on with the bridge, somebody standing in the audience wanting to address that question, maybe it gives them a little bit more pause. if you look where the hit he's taken in the polls and everything he's saying about what's still outstanding in terms of investigations and questions still going to be answered, not through by a long shot. >> michael, he's headed to boston to do a campaign event, be with mitt romney and candidate there locally. what do you think this alliance means and to inform you on that. let's listen to what romney had to say several months ago about
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christie. >> chris could become the nominee and they don't come better than chris christie. >> do you think that that's probably still romney's thinking privately and what do you think this step of them teaming together? >> i wonder if that was romney's thinking at the time as well. >> hard to tell sometimes. >> yes, it is. we know his staff vetted christie for vice president and got nervous at that time when they started just pulling up some of the boxes and kind of looking inside. >> do you think that was about the accusations we're seeing now or unrelated? >> i when you look, i think it's about not the accusations specifically about the bridge -- >> but the bullying charge in general? >> look, as you look at the press right now, there is day after day there are stories that frankly were reported onto the enduring credit of the new jersey press corps, here in new jersey for some time. all that's happening now is a lot of us are starting to look
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at those and starting to make the connections, starting to -- that thing and that thing, that adds up to -- this is the price of bullying. i think to that extent, all of this cumulatively is a big headache for him and i suspect was a good reason that romney didn't pick him as his vice president, even if he appears with him today. >> we'll see if anything comes out of that event. >> thank you, gentlemen, for joining, catch steve on up" weekends on msnbc at 8:00. first coming up, arizona's governor vetoed an anti-gay discrimination bill. how will that impact the rest of the country? we're going to unveil our battle of the day plus how one former marines act of courage off the battle field is making our heroes and zeros. later, my one on one interview with miley cyrus, on how she deals with the haters. >> it's fun anyhow serious
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people take it and they are like you're racist.
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welcome back. just minutes ago kentucky became the latest state to legally recognize gay marriage equality. the last 24 hours we've also seen a bill criticized as anti-gay struck down in arizona and marriage ban up-ended in texas. are rumors of the death of this kind of allegedly discriminatory legislation exaggerated? first let's recap, measures killed include last night arizona's governor vetoed senate bill 1062, which we talked about earlier, which would have allowed businesses to deny services to gays and lesbians, by putting pen to paper, brewer
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ended days of protest right here on this show. >> i call them like i see them, despite the cheers or boos from the crowd. >> the governor has done absolutely the right thing for our state and really sent a message to the country about our values. arizona is a state that welcomes diversity. >> all right, the boos from the crowd, they were heard elsewhere while in texas a federal judge ruled on that state's ban on gay marriage. he said it was unconstitutional. setting the stage for that state to become potentially the next battleground for gay rights. listen to that. >>. >> maybe the first step but it's an awesome first step. >> an awesome first step and a lot of happy faces in texas. but there have been similar debates unfolding in other states and some are still underway with an uncertain future. here are two big proposals you
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should keep an eye on, first 1023, which gives employers and businesses the right of refusal based on religious beliefs. on the other hand mississippi senate bill says the state can't, quote, burden a person's right to exercise free religion, also under consideration at this point. joining me here onset to make sense of all of this is one of the big voices from the last few years of lgbt advocacy, roberta caplin argued edie windsor's case before the supreme court. i can only imagine how stressful it was. you had an entire movement riding on your shoulders. thank you for joining us and trying to make sense of the latest events. we see yesterday's news out of texas, similar rulings before that in virginia and kentucky. what do you think the future holds for those cases? what do you think the next thing to hit the supreme court might be?
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>> the windsor case came down at the end of june. since that decision there have been 15 court decisions in courts throughout the country in places like as you mentioned, kentucky, virginia, utah, oklahoma, all relying on windsor. i don't think that's surprising at all. windsor is about the core dignity of gay people and how they have the same type of dignity and should get the same respect as everyone else. once the supreme court has said that as i predicted back in the summer, it's all over about the shouting much it was like the battle of normandy and we've rerecaptured paris. >> it lays it out over and over again so it's hard to find wiggle room in that. we talk about frl cases, you gave the tally of 15, i believe 13 decisions have referenced windsor at the subfederal level, district courts. what do you think needs to happen at the state level versus
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federal? >> the kind of dialogue we're seeing right now between legislatures and the people and media like yourself ronan and the courts is healthy. that's what the constitutional system is all about. to give you an example back in new york, i haven't won every case, back in new york in 2004, i lost a big case, actually 2006 we filed it in 2004, i lost the new york state marriage case. if you told me in 2006 that five years later the new york legislature would pass marriage equality in new york, i would have told you that you were on some kind of hallucinogenic drug. it's because of that loss and that's the way our system is supposed to work. >> you mentioned in terms of the system working before the show that you think there's a productive conversation at this point between the legislature and courts and executive branch. let's start with the executive brench, we've even eric holder come out and enact reforms on the administrative side. we've seen hagel coming out on the military's treatment.
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is there any anything else that president obama can or should do that he hasn't? >> best wishes for attorney general holder in terms of a swift recovery. >> of course. >> the obama administration's efforts have been truly stunning. in every possible area they had the discretion to extend rights to gay people they have. it began in our case when the president decided in a historic decision that doma was unconstitutional and they weren't going to defend the statute. it's the one time in the case where i was incredibly surprised. i had tears running down my face when that happened and everything has led from that. >> speaking of your personal reactions, when you saw the news out of arizona, at the opposite end of spectrum, a good conversation between the legislature and courts, it seems like some of these legislatures are out of touch with what the courts are ruling, arizona obviously a striking example although it didn't go through ultimately. what was your personal reaction when you and your partner saw
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that news? >> when the bill was passed obviously it was very distressing to any gay person in the united states. the bill which was passed which will not go into law is no different than bills that allowed restaurants not to serve african-americans or hotels not to accept jews as guests. it was no different than that and thank god the governor and people of arizona have seen to do the right thing and embrace equality rather than discrimination. >> we sat down and looked through that arizona bill and several of the other similar ones including this pending bill in georgia. one of the things that we saw was we couldn't really pull out bullet points because they are so broad. they just sort of have a general definition of freedom, not a lot of specific rationale for it. when you look at the legislation, do you see a common thread? >> it's part of a backlash, much less of a backlash after the massachusetts court decided marriage but it's a backlash. and the core principle is
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discriminating against gay people and the supreme court has made it very clear now that if a law is passed and reason for passing the law is to discriminate against gay people, then that law is unconstitutional. >> one last question, what's next for you in this fight? you changed the face of this movement. what can -- how can you follow that up? >> the one thing i've learned in life, you never know what the future holds. i don't know but we filed a brief in the utah case today so i'm continuing to work on issues and hope i get another chance to do so. >> appreciate your work on the front line on this. that leads us to today's battle day. do you think marriage equality will ever be legal in all 50 states? weigh in by choosing one of two hash tags, rfd 50 or rfd never. we'll be interested to see the results of that. if msnbc viewers come out in force saying never, we'll do questioning of that and keep you updated on that ahead. first, when we come back,
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ukrainian president yanukovych surfaces for the first time since the ouster and manhunt we've been following as a mass pro russian gunman seized a parliament building in crimea. we have the latest developments on the tensions in the ukraine next. [announcer] word is getting out. purina dog chow light & healthy is a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend. with 20% fewer calories than purina dog chow. isn't it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow. purina dog chow light & healthy. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains... you can't help but see the good.
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rush president vladimir putin ordered military exercises near the border of ukraine. chuck hagel is saying this is about the exercises earlier. >> i expect russia to be transparent about these activities and i urge them not to take any steps to be misinterpreted or lead to miscal lugs during a very delicate time. >> delicate time and estimated 150,000 troops are participating in those russian military exercises. we'll keep you updated on that story. first up next on "ronan farrow daily", president obama is using his pen and phone to take action to help boost young black and hispanic men. we'll have the details and as the tea party turns five, are they still relevant? what's the trajectory for them? our daily panel is weighing in next. stay with us. >> we have a very real, real opportunity to throw the sand in
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>> wow, i didn't come here to make friends, that's like from survivor, that's a reality tv thing. here's you don't tea party cliff's notes to give you background, five years ago the tea party held the first protest in more than 30 cities across the country outraged by president obama stimulus plan later that year tea parties angrier with president obama's health care plan swamped town halls across the country, including this one by the late arlen specter. >> want to be led out of here, you're welcome to go. now, wait a minute. now wait a minute. now wait a minute. wait a minute -- >> in 2010 scott brown pulled off an earth shattering upset winning the senate seat held by ted kennedy. and the tea party darling rand paul, not actually related to
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rupaul, won his seat in the senate in kentucky but arguably the tea party with the most impact, ted cruz, swept into office in 2012 and led the shutdown over obamacare last year. joining us now is james peterson and tara dardel who just told me it's tara like in gone with the wind, not tara. the tea party did face the change of congress going back to 2010. we're still feeling the impact of its influence today and do you think it's enough to swing the midterms coming up? >> i think primecy is the key word. their relevance will be in the primary elections in which they can produce candidates. that kind of remains to be seen. their legislative impact may be waining or may have peaked once they got behind this last
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shutdown which didn't pull well with their own supporters. >> it seemed to be a real moment where she shot themselves in the foot and pushed the country to the brink and started to say what's happening here? >> people were saying this is not the tea party we want to see or congress we want to see. we need government that works. if the policies, whether there are fiscal policies or social issues, they don't want to shut down government. most americans will agree with that. >> it seems to be possibly trending that way and that said, there are more than 3,000 tea party chapp epe eters right now we're going to hear from ted cruz and paul. we just discussed both are being touted as potential 2016 candidates. we may at some point bring you live footage from the floor of this event and prepping these speeches here and take a look. you have some people starting to trickle out and talk. this will be a big moment for them where they are setting up the presidential aspirations.
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tara, to you, do you see viable presidential material within the tea party? do you think that's something that can happen? >> i think the tea party should not be underestimated and progressives like myself have made the mistake of sort of laughing at them and being dismissive of them. i think that's dangerous. while they have been a double edged sword for the republican party and shot themselves in the foot with candidates who are too crazy and outlandish and too scary, in that sense, they've allowed democrats to gain some seats they may not have gained in the u.s. senate. but at the same time, they come out to vote. those mid-term elections and off year nonpresidential elections are all about turnout. and the tea party may not do anything else right but they will turn out people to vote because they are -- they are mind set on getting back control of the senate. >> we're going to switch for a moment to news out of the obama administration on individuals of color in this country. president obama with a big
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announcement about a program called my brother's keeper to help disadvantaged black male youth. i'll put the first question to you james, first, take a listen, we have fresh sound from the white house about this program. it's from president obama's announcement. >> there's no question as he said trayvon's passing was a tragedy and several months ago moved by the martin family tragedy, the president spoke about the need to invest in our young boys. >> do you think this program is actually sub tan tif enough to make a difference. we see education for young black males in this country, is this promising? >> that's a good question, the question of substance is the right question to ask, is $200 million plus the $150 million of these foundations already put up going to be enough. resourcewise, no. the problems we're talking about will cost more and require more but this is a very, very good start. it's for both black and brown young boys and it's trying to
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attack the challenges they face at key moments, which is early childhood education and nutrition and trying to attack the challenges of disciplinary forces within the school system tracking our boys. so there's important resources at the table and as many people smarter than me have said, charity is no substitute for justice. >> in my own family, i did really find that my black siblings had such a different experience, even in a privileged educational setting than white individuals in the family. up against a lot from square one and a lot of suppositions. >> racial inequality has overlapped with class but it doesn't completely overlap it. there's going to be racial issues no matter what the class is. >> it's something that maekz me angry when i think about it and one of the sources of economic repression in the country. the problem can be just as big for young women of color. do you think there's a gap in what the president is doing?
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should this have targeted that demographic as well? >> i think they should target specifically young boys. i think that's where we see a lot more dislocation, social dislocation, economic dislocation. i think there are a lot of programs for young women because there's just always been sort of this view that women haven't had an opportunity to have even greater disadvantage. >> you think they are over -- >> no, no, let me -- let me be very clear. i'm an entrepreneur hurt by discrimination, so i definitely don't think that. i think the urgency is with young boys. and i think it's a great start but i think people need to remember and this is where local elections are so important and get ignored. the real impact has got to be on the community and local level. i've said to people all the time, i'm a democrat. but i will say this. if you are in a city where your graduation rates are down and crime rates are up, you need to change those people in power. and whoever they are, whatever part, you have to change that.
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until the local level we see real, real action there, these issues are going to continue to exist. >> the president's initiative should be identifying some of those programs to address these challenges at the local level. >> it's certainly true. it's a huge challenge. education at the heart of what we do in this country. both of you, thank you so much. we'll have you back on to talk about this more. but first, let's check back on today's battle of the day. remember, we asked, do you think marriage equality is ever going to be legal in all 50 states? here's what we're get sog far, unsurprisingly 92% sided with rfd50 and 8% with rfdnever. we're going to be carrying the comments from the never category which is surprising. mildred sent these thoughts. too many hateful people in the world, equality will prevail in the land of the free. i guess a lot of the never comments are just coming from a place of pessimism i we'll keep track and see how justified it
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expiration date. i'm a male survivor of sexual trauma. i was humiliated while a man and fellow marine took advantage of me sexually. >> he testified from a wheelchair because he attempted suicide after his attacker was dishonorably discharged but received no jail time and was not required to register as a sex offender. the hearing was sponsored by kristen gillibrand promoting legislation legislation speaking out about sexual assault against men is still incredibly difficult and stigma tiesed in our country and all the more so within the regimented confines of military culture. for taking that brave step, corporal arbogast is today's hero. on another note, we turn to a powerful foreign leader with a disturbing past. in the past two months, voters in india, the largest democracy,
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will hold national elections and the country's dominant political party may be in for a trouncing but that's not the disturbing part. this man is. the candidate for prime minister of a hindu nationalist party, which is favored by 63% of indian voters. here's the problem, when india was exploding with religious riots in 2002 and over 1,000 innocent people mostly muslims were killed in the streets, he stood by and done nothing. he was linked to a secret police asas nas squad. the surprise, he also commands a 78% -- that's 78%, approval rating right now. that means he may well see the position of power he seeks. we'll stay tuned to that story. now he's our zero of the day. pop star miley cyrus responds to accusations she is
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welcome back, when i say miley cyrus, how do you react? she's just being miley maybe? she may bring up intense emotions if you're a parents bringing a child to one of her concerts. parents this week are complaining about her tour which is described as raunchy and inappropriate for young children. she reacted on twitter, i don't think people realize how much energy i put into my shows and how much their bad energy brings me down. there are more serious charges also swirling around cyrus than just the shield your eyes, kids, one. some of those come from people from within her shows, outlet's have called her cultural
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appropriation with her use of black women in her shows and little people have railed against her routines involving people in that category, which some say are exploitive. i profiled miss cyrus for the cover of this month's "w" magazine. we got behind the scenes moments from that interview and an exclusive voice of dissent from within that controversial tour. but first, miley just being miley. >> my favorite movie that i've been watching is "days of thunder", i watch it three days in a row. i want to be nicole kidman. tom cruise's outfits are so much better. >> you like the test toaosteron >> when i watched days of thunder got obsessed with the button up. >> miley cyrus, like many 21 years old is still discovering
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her influences. she asked her creative director to completely drown me in new movies and books and art. there's the tom cruise fixation named desire". >> and fiery dwoes to joan jett, who she, quote, gets shaky. like jett, cyrus has a penchant for courting controversy like her notorious -- >> doing whatever we want. erchlts she's taken heat for her use of black women and little people in concerts. cyrus shrugs off the critiques. >> it's funny how serious people take it, and you're like you're racist and this. literally we're a bunch of kids dancing around, we don't do choreography. they're like dancing dos these moves.
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they're awesome dancers on their own. it's not me telling them how to be. >> she's learned to shrug off a lot. she has diehard fans kyle smilers. she weathers constant scrutiny and constant attacks from a new generation of social media users with few boundaries. she has a strict moratorium on googling herselfings and she decries what she refers to as jealous haters. has she also tuned out more thoughtful critiques about the charges about her dancers. >> do you worry about exploiting them? >> no. >> they're sexual and beautiful. if you met britney, who is one of our amazing little people with us, she's like -- we all are about lifting her up, making her feel so sexy all the time and having her dance. she's actually an awesome dancer. >> not all people agree with miss cyrus. some people feel her performances do exploit them,
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including one of her former backup dancer, the lovely medicals hollis jane. she was dressed in a costume during the infamous in -- and caused a stir i think quo eloquently feel degraded in that costume. hollis, thank you so much. >> no problem. thank you for having me. >> i have to say, you know, the piece i wrote on miley, and mea feeling after meeting her are quite positive. she's smart, beguiling, very talented. i'm not saying i don't sing "wrecking ball" in the shower. >> who doesn't? >> she's sympathetic in a lot of ways, but you did say again very eloquently this experience was something that left you crying and shaking, i think. >> right. >> tell me how that was itches i think it's kind of one of those things where you can't judge something until you do it yourself, and i'm trying to be an actress in l.a. i studied theater in college. i've never doning in performancewise focused on being
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a little person. i'm in a mask, so you can't necessarily see my face. if you put inible in a mask or behind something like that, you're going to feel you're losing your identity. >> i think you used the word problem, actually. >> exactly. so anybody is going to feel that way. this is not necessarily just miley. look at -- >> you don't necessarily blame miley. it's not about you tearing her down. >> no, exacti. it's a call to action like little people need to stop being seen as just jokes, in my opinion. >> and powerful people -- >> you look at wolf of wall street, and leonardo is just doing a script, doing the whole dwarf tossing scene. they watch the movie and then see someone throwing it. >> people reacted kind of casually to that. >> exactly.
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>> what do you think the bigger problem is with how our culture treats people with alternative body types? >> i think everyone is scared of different. everyone likes seeing the normal, and people don't want to feel different. they don't want to feel like they're being forced to change. so i think, you know, if you have a person on television or movies, whatever, it's a change, because it's not what you're used to seeing every day. so i think society just gets a bit freaked out by that type of thing. >> i think your coming on and speaking out about these issues, though divisive, i think it does a service in bringing out people in your community and showing that it is normal. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for that. >> thank you for having she. >> thank you for sharing your story. >> of course. thank you. >> that's hollis jane. and it is time for our call to action update. we asked you to put a face on the student loan debt crisis. you have shown your name and either how much you owe or when you're going to have it paid
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off. we've been featuring them on the air and on our website. brook, for instance tweeted she took out $45,000 in loans. the rest is interest. she says she is drowning in debt. well, brook, senator kirsten jill i brand has introduced the act which would let student borrows paying more than 4% refinance at a lower interest rate. we're going to have more exclusively with senator jill i brand tomorrow. and let's check in for the last time also on today's battle of the day. we asked if you thought marriage equality would ever be legal in all 50 states. the winner -- optimism. got 92% of that vote. thank you for everyone who weighed in. that wraps things up for this edition of ronaf farrow daily. i look forward to joy reid. you look lovely. what do you have coming up? >> thanks, ronan.
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why the effort to block the vote in the buckeye state will have national implications, but first breaking news out of the washington, where u.s. attorney general eric holder is undergoing tests after being taken to the hospital. let's go to pete williams, who is following the latest developments. pete, what is the latest on holder's condition? >> the latest is that the attorney general is home. a justice department official says he was released from the hospital about 1:15 this afternoon. that means he was hospitalized or in the hospital for some checks. just over three hours. this all started this morning when at his regular staff meeting, he told his staff he wasn't feeling well, got up, left the room and his security detail persuaded him to go to the hospital. he was taken by ambulance, though members of his staff saying he was joking with the paramedics, here imin an ambulance, but i walk five flights every day and was going

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